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There's an absolutely beautiful church here in town called Aldersgate United Methodist. I've never attended services there, but we used the space for rehearsals quite a few times for King Island Christmas, and more than once I admired the architecture - a high vaulted ceiling in the sanctuary with floor-to-ceiling windows behind the altar. I joked with Brian a few times that if we got married here in Juneau, it'd have to be there.

Anyway, I was going through the paper today and came across this beautiful piece on religious acceptance in the "Neighbors" section - which, after reading, I found out was written by the pastor of said church. I was impressed with the church to start with, but now I'm doubly so - after all, there are any number of churches out there that are beautifully constructed but whose pastors (while they may be charismatic) have absoultely horrible attitudes about tolerance and the like (the Anchorage Baptist Temple comes to mind - do a Google search for "Jerry Prevo" and you'll see what I mean). The piece seemed even more meaningful given the acceptance and even encouragement of religious/national/racial intolerance that is so utterly rampant these days.

In any case, I'm reprinting it here, since I seriously believe this is a message that more people need to hear. Standard disclaimer applies - the text is copyright Rev. Dan Wanders, I'm only passing it along. Here's a link to the online published version, if anyone else wants to link to it.

It was Christmas, and our United Methodist house in Helena, Montana was full. Some of our children and some of their children and spouses were there. Our Roman Catholic friend from Mexico City was there. Our Muslim friends from Pakistan and their children were there. From the apartment we owned were our Jewish friends.

All told we had substantial diversity among us. We were self-avowed, practicing United Methodists. Some of our children were United Methodist; some were Roman Catholic; and some were committed to preserving the carpeting in any church.

Our Mexican friend was very devout, clearly a post-Vatican II believer and admirer of Pope John XXIII.

Our Muslim friends were disciplined in their prayer practice and religious observances.

Our Jewish friends held classes for Jewish children, teaching them Hebrew, Jewish traditions and religion.

As I listened to the discussions over those heart-warming days, I heard our non-church-going children talk about caring for an old lady living alone next door, about providing haircuts for persons looking for work, about walking the neighborhood to try to reduce crime, about taking groceries to a single mother struggling to get along, about organizing a fund raiser for a child with a brain tumor.

I heard our Roman Catholic friend from Mexico talking about enfolding non-Roman-Catholics within the community of faith, about making her priest nervous by her associating with so many Protestants, about how best to help the poor.

I heard our Muslim friends telling stories from Muslim tradition about Mohammed, stories that sounded very Christ-like to my ears. I heard them talking about respecting persons of other religions. I heard them rejecting retaliation for wounds and advocating actively pursuing reconciliation. I heard them speaking about loving those who hurt us.

I heard our Jewish friends speaking of Jewish commitment to justice. They emphasized remembering the slavery in Egypt and affirmed that Passover is a call for humble commitment to justice for all peoples. They criticized Zionism and were vehemently opposed to Israeli treatment of the Palestinians, which they described as a violation of Judaism.

Since then I have remembered struggling with greater clarity regarding the Christian gospel under the tutelage of a Baptist mentor. I thought about coming into a clearer understanding of the writings of Paul studying with a Presbyterian. I recalled being challenged to social justice by an Episcopalian. I thought about trying to make sense of it all and applying my faith to everyday living while at the feet of a Lutheran. I appreciate an increased sense of the exuberance of worship gained with a Pentecostal associate. My spirituality was deepened through the close relationship with God that a Quaker acquaintance embodied. I have been so uplifted in Black churches when worshiping with spirit and dignity. In Serbian Orthodox and Russian Orthodox churches I have been stirred by a sense of the otherness of God and the love of God. I have been warmed by the deep sense of community I experienced in a Hutterite colony. I recalled the gentle vision of a barber who was Bahai, his vision of humanity joining hands rather than bearing arms and lifting one another up rather than tearing one another down. I have appropriated my own Methodist commitments to personal piety and trying to apply the teachings of Jesus to society.

I wonder what would happen if we listened to one another with more energy and more attentiveness than we give to labeling one another. I wonder what would happen if, rather than taking our stands and positions and aggressive stances, we shared what our deepest longings are. What if we talked about our aspirations, shared our fears and wounds, and listened to one another as persons beloved of God.

That would be hard to do in some cases. Surely it would. But what if we could? What if we would?


Have a happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

Date: 2005-11-24 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
After hearing Jerry Falwell declare a Jihad on people who say 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas', this was a soothing balm.

Don't listen to the lip service

Date: 2005-11-24 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempest-x.livejournal.com
Yeah, as a fallen Methodist myself, you definately want to watch these guys.

They spout off about tolerance and love and christian morals, but there's a repeated record of them profiling, targetting, and eventually harrassing people of an, er, alternative, sexual orientation.

I myself was married by a pastor over in the douglas methodist, her name is Kim Poole, and she's an open, no nonesense, straightforward lesbian. No games, no hiding, nothing. And for this they persecuted her, started a propaganda campaign (they being the other members of the clergy), until the very Methodist organization itself was forced to ask for her resignation.

Needless to say, regardless of what the fucking building looks like, FUCK THEM, FUCK THEM IN THE EAR WITH A CHAINSAW!

(If you couldn't tell, I have a LOT of respect for Kim, and nobody, especially not her, deserved to be driven out like that, especially for that fucking reason)

Re: Don't listen to the lip service

Date: 2005-11-24 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseneko.livejournal.com
See, this is one of the many reasons why I don't like organized religion. It makes labeling much too easy, and everyone is held responsible for the views and actions of a few people.

Quite honestly, I think the point of the article was that we need to stop looking at what "these people" (be it the Methodists or the Episcopalians (ask me about the priest my mother defended when he was unjustly accused of sexual molestation sometime) or Jews or Pastafarians) "have done" and start looking at individual people and what each one of them believes and has done. What happened to your friend was very wrong, but I sincerely doubt all the Methodists agreed with it, any more than all the Episcopalians agreed to force my mother's friend to resign. Read any article about survey biases and what not - the people who tend to be most vocal are usually the extremely conservative minority.

Unforunately, people will continue to get together in groups and (as a result) stifle their individual common sense in order to retain the feeling of belonging. So it's up to people like us to look at and question the individuals in these groups, rather than denouncing the groups as a whole.

Re: Don't listen to the lip service

Date: 2005-11-24 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempest-x.livejournal.com
Well, this has happened a number of times, not just with the sexual orientation. I won't launch into a long drawn out explanation of my childhood, simply to state that I discovered, the hard way, that if you don't fit into the views of the church (and that especially includes the congregation), then they will do everything to drive you away. This isn't a lesson a 10 year old needs to learn... Not from the people who give the lip service of "Love, peace, and tolerance".

Now, if they didn't try to hide behid the venear of civilized behavior (ie. aren't we such good people, we give to the church, drive ceartin cars, go to the same meetings, and generally all act like each other, therefore we must be good people), if thye didn't try to PRETEND to be good people, and called it like they are, intolerant bigots, then I doubt I'd have nearly such a problem with them...

[email protected]

Date: 2005-11-24 05:55 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Rose, I join your awe! Did you know the Methodist tradtion was started by an Episcopal minister, John Westly? Your Aunt Emily is a Methodist. If you ever meet this priest please tell him or her that your Scientologist-Christian Mother thinks his/her ideas are absolutely fabulous! And as an Epsicopalian, I am proud to see a fellow Christian writing something so moving and full of turth. I am even more awed at your sensitivity and caring, in posting this for us to share. You totally made my day and gave me renewed reason for Thanksgiving. Thank you God, for a daughter with a loving, caring heart. Love, Mum

Re: [email protected]

Date: 2005-11-24 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseneko.livejournal.com
Thanks Mum, I'll be sure to tell him. Or perhaps you'll get a chance to tell him yourself, since Brian and I are seriously considering asking him to do our wedding. :)

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